1632. Double Trouble: Heart Disease & Diabetes
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Dr. Martin: Well good morning everyone, and once again, welcome to another live this morning. Hope you're having a great start to your day. Okay, good morning guys, and we appreciate you coming on and have you guys heard of a name and I know you have if you've been on this program for a while, but for the new folks here I want to talk to you about. His name is Joseph Kraft. Now, not Kraft Dinner, not Kraft Peanut butter, Joseph Kraft. Anywho, I've been following that guy probably 30, 40 years. Whenever he wrote a book, I made sure I read that book. He was sort of the father of diabetes, okay? Now, he made some unbelievable statements about diabetes and I want to just talk about that today because I was looking through some notes and I saw his name and I said, that guy was light ears ahead of time. He really was. He was unbelievable like what he talked about.
And guys, I'm going to tell you something. Dr. Joseph Kraft, who died just a few years ago, was a genius. And what he had to say about diabetes was incredible. And here's one thing that he did say years and years ago. He said this, I remember underlining this in one of his books. He said, if you have heart disease, okay, listen to what I'm going to say. If you have heart disease, you are a diabetic. What? That's what he said. He said, if you have heart disease characterized by atherosclerosis, okay? So, remember he did thousands of autopsies on diabetic patients, okay? Thousands of autopsies. This is where he came to his conclusion. If you were a diabetic, you got heart disease. If you got heart disease, you're a diabetic. Now, undiagnosed in a lot of cases because as we talk about on this program a lot, diabetes is the last thing to happen, guys.It's not the first thing, it's the last thing.
Again, a little bit of physiology, okay? We don't even have to get into the weeds. Let's just take some basics. Your body is dedicated to controlling blood sugar, dedicated. It understands the importance of controlling blood sugar. Blood sugar out control is a massive failure on your body's part, okay? It's a massive failure on your body's part. That's why it has to control your blood sugar because your body knows that unattended sugar in your blood is catastrophe for your blood vessels. Okay? So diabetes, we're at a point that almost half the population is diabetic. If you put in pre-diabetic, which Dr. Joseph Kraft would say is diabetes, because remember, diabetes is the last thing to happen. So if you're a pre-diabetic, and in my office, I didn't like relying on blood sugar. I mean I could, but I didn't. I liked urine as a test. Urine is the old fashioned test for diabetes. They don't do it. They do a urinalysis, okay?
Because a lot of times you'll go and the doctor wants a urinalysis done, but they're not looking for sugar. I mean, if it happens to show up, okay? But they're not doing a urinalysis for that. They're doing it mainly to see if you have a bladder infection or whatever. They're looking for leukocytes in the urine and maybe protein in the urine, but they're not really looking for sugar in the urine. The old fashioned doctor, when they didn't have ability to prick your finger and test for your blood sugar like we have easily today, I remember my dad, urine, smell it. Here son. Smell this urine. What do you smell? Sugar? Yeah, that's a diabetic. And that happens, by the way, when the body is getting rid of sugar, you're a diabetic. I used to tell patients that all the time. Well, my doctor said, I'm not a diabetic. My blood sugar's not high. No, you're peeing out sugar. You're a diabetic. A hundred percent.
So listen to a statement. Look, we've been doing podcasting for a lot of years. I did a radio show for many, many years, 20 years before I started podcasting. So I had a radio show. I made this statement 10 times probably over the years on our show. But let me say this again because I'm quoting him, okay? I am quoting the father of diabetes. Here's what he said. Most people who die of a heart attack, okay, follow me. Most people who die of a heart attack, this is Dr. Joseph Kraft. Here's a statement he made. Most people who die of a heart attack go to their grave, never knowing that they were really diabetic. Wow. Think of the implications of that statement, is what he's saying is you don't get heart disease unless you got trouble with blood sugar. Most people who die of a heart attack go to the grave never knowing they were really diabetic.
Atherosclerosis, I remember one of you last week put a little testimony on the private Facebook group saying that you got, because the doctor wanted to put them on statins, their cholesterol was high or whatever, and they said, well, test might carotid arteries. If you think I've got heart disease because my cholesterol is high, test my carotid arteries. And after a lot of arm twisting, the doctor did it and they had no atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries is not due to cholesterol. Cholesterol does not cause that. Ever, ever. I've always said that, ever. I don't buy the cholesterol thing. I never have, I never have. Cholesterol for heart disease, you're looking for love in all the wrong places in my opinion. I never bought that premise.
Now, one of the reasons, not the only reason, but one of the reasons is studying Dr. Joseph Kraft because, and we talk about this almost daily, guys, insulin. Insulin, that hormone that your pancreas produces, it's on your side, okay? It's on your side, but you don't want to overuse it because your cells get tired of it. We talk about this all the time, and your cells go, hey, insulin, I'm so sick of you, I hate you. You come around all the time and now you're a bad neighbor. You're always coming. You're always knocking at the door. I'm tired of it. Okay? What happens? The cells develop insulin resistance. It's all diet guys. It's diet. Someone insists, okay, this is the unholy trinity here. Sugar, carbs and oils, bad oils, okay? The unholy trinity. What happens? You live on that stuff. What happens?
Your cells, because when you have sugar, okay, crappy carbohydrates, what happens? You must, must secrete insulin. You continue to eat that way, look at the kids today from Krappy dinner to Pop-Tarts, to breakfast cereals, to orange juice to these smoothie shops. I get a headache and coffee shops that they go get their syrup. And you know what happens? You secrete a lot of insulin, you secrete a lot of insulin. Your cells get tired of it. You develop a condition called insulin resistance. And when you have insulin resistance, you have inflammation. That's the response. And in the arteries, inflammation, it's disease without a fever. It's not a virus, it's not a bacteria. It's insulin resistance. And now you've got a raging fire, okay? Raging fire inside of your blood vessels, arteries. When you have heart disease, arteries are on fire with inflammation, not cholesterol. Cholesterol is like the fireman. It's coming to the scene to get rid of the inflammation. It's not the bad guy, it's the good guy.
And guys, we've talked about this a lot, but again, there's a reason for my madness when it comes to food, okay? There's a reason I didn't do it for nothing. Remember the reset eggs, meat, and cheese for 30 days? Why did I start that program in my clinic years and years and years ago? Why did I do that? How did it start Dr. Martin? Diabetes. I gave it for diabetes. What? Yeah, I got people off carbohydrates, and my goal was lower insulin. You're a diabetic. You don't get along with carbs, you just don't get along. You love them, but they don't love you. They're creating havoc inside your body. They're destroying your blood vessels. Why do you think guys a diabetic? Okay, forget Joseph Kraft for a minute. Why do you think a diabetic is already 50, 60 or more percent more likely to have a heart attack? What? Yes. Why? Blood vessels. Damage. Sugar damages blood vessels, and the inflammation creates a response of atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries. It's not cholesterol, it's not cholesterol. Cholesterol is the fireman is trying to put the fire out.
And guys, this is so important because what we're finding, not me, okay, I'm not a pathologist, but what they are finding as even children today, children are developing atherosclerosis, hardening of their arteries due to inflammation, due to insulin, due to bad diet. Okay? Why do we see so much obesity? It's insulin. I teach you guys this all the time. It's the reason I do what I do with food, okay? I take out my fat ball, hold on a minute. I have it right beside me. I take out fat. Okay? So for those listening on a podcast, I got five pounds of fat here, man. It's five pounds is big, a foot long, six inches thick. Here's me, okay? What I taught my patients for years and years and years, and okay, I had this in my office. I said, see this? Yeah, when you eat sugar, when you have crappy carbs, okay, got that part right? Yeah, I got that. Okay. That creates this in your body. What? Well, it creates fat. Why? I thought fat made me fat. No, fat don't make you fat. Steak doesn't make you fat. Bacon and eggs don't make you fat. Bread makes you fat. What?
Well, it's just the way it is because when you have sugar or anything that turns to sugar rapidly, you need insulin. Insulin has a job to do. It cannot allow that sugar to stay in your bloodstream. So what does sugar do? Well, sugar makes insulin come to the rescue. And the traffic cop said, you can't park in the blood. You must come with me and now I am going to park you. And here's its favored parking spots. Muscle, liver, fat cells. Those are the parking spots. The muscles not too much room. The liver, not too much room. You keep eating carbs, you keep eating crappy carbs. You start your morning, instead of having bacon and eggs, you start your morning with cereal. Oh, Dr. Martin, it's oatmeal. I heard that a million times in my office, Dr. Martin, it's Quaker Oats. I can't go to the bathroom unless I have my Quaker Oats.
And I said, see the fat? Yeah, I see it. That's what you're doing. What? That's you're doing your Quaker Oats. Frosted flakes are great. Tony the tiger. That's what they used to call me as a kid. They're not great. They're great at giving you diabetes, anywho, diabesity. What is that? Well, insulin, what does it do? It stores fat. So as long as, put this in your craw, guys, I know you have, but let's just really cement it in your craw. You eat the wrong foods, the unholy trinity, sugar, carbs, crappy carbs. When I say carbs, I mean bread, pasta, noodles, rice, cereals, muffins, bagels. Dr. Martin, they're whole wheat muffins. Yeah, they're going to be sugar in five seconds. And you probably got six teaspoons of sugar in there, added in, especially if they're store bought. What happens? Well, insulin has to come to the rescue. And it's going to take that sugar out, and it stores it as fat, going to turn to fat.
And so whether it was weight loss, like even diets, guys, think about this. Okay? Calories in, calories out. I got taught that in school in the seventies, calories in, calories out. Eat less, move more. Was never true. Never true. It's what you eat. It's not calories. Has nothing to do with calories, has everything to do, whether you're using insulin or not. If you have a steak, insulin is on the sidelines. It doesn't need to work. For those nit pickers, you're going to come after me. Yeah, you always need a little bit of insulin, but not much. So for all intensive purposes, I used to tell my patients, when you have a steak, you don't need insulin. What's that mean? Well, now you're burning fat, you're going to burn it. You're not storing it because there's no insulin present.
So when I give the reset people, they get frustrated at times because the original purpose of the reset was not weight loss. But most people, that's their goal. And I understand that guys, I've been around a long time. I was in practice a long time. I understood that I had a weight loss clinic, but you got low carb. Why? Always, always, always low carbohydrates, low sugar. Why? Because of insulin. And I said, what you're doing inside your body is what needs to be done. It's the best way to eat. Eat nutrient dense foods. Your insulin is on the sidelines. You eat an egg on the sidelines, you're having dairy butter, cream, cheese, your insulin's on the sidelines. When insulin's on the sidelines, remember what we've been talking about? Not only not storing fat, but you're lowering inflammation and inflammation damages your blood vessels from the presence of sugar. And that's how you get atherosclerosis.
So Dr. Joseph Kraft was a genius. He said, people that have a heart attack, they don't even know it, but they're really a diabetic. It's undiagnosed diabetes. That's what he said. I mean, that guy said one of the most astounding principles of nutrition, and he lived long enough to understand the condition that he talked about, which is metabolic syndrome. It's what I've been talking about on my radio show for 20 years. And 93% of the population have trouble with insulin. You have trouble with it. You are developing a condition of athero. That is why heart disease is the number one killer of chronic disease. If it was cholesterol, guys, we'd have got rid of heart disease by now. And believe me, I don't trust them as far as I can throw 'em. They would put statin drugs in our drinking water if we allowed it. And we almost did put it in the drinking water because cholesterol is at the root of heart disease according to the world out there. Are they right? No, they're not right. They're not right.
And guys, I'm going to tell you, let me give you a little secret, okay? Because I think you know this, but okay, doc, how do I know if I have the process of atherosclerosis going on in my body? How do I know that without putting dye in my arteries to see if I got atherosclerosis? I'm going to give you how you can know. Your doctor doesn't know this, but you can know it. Your doctor hasn't been taught this because if they did, they would tell you, but they haven't been taught it. But this is a fact, okay? If you have elevated triglycerides, so when you get your blood work. Get my book, Sun Steak and Steel, I really explain it there. But anyway, if your triglycerides are high, your blood vessels are burning inside, you got a fire going on and it's damaging your lining, your endothelial, your Teflon like slipperiness of your blood vessels already happening.
If your triglycerides are high and your HDL cholesterol is low, you have inflammation, infla-aging and inflammatory condition going on in your body. Your triglycerides are high, and your HDL cholesterol, see cholesterol, it's a factor, but you want it to be high, not low. You want your HDL cholesterol. You know your blood vessels are squeaky clean if you got low triglycerides and elevated HDL. Now there's another test. They should do it. Most doctors don't. You can measure inflammation silent type with a test called CRP, C-reactive protein. Your body makes C-reactive protein. They can measure it. It comes out of the liver. The organ that doesn't get a lot of ink is your liver, right? But CRP is made there. Doctors should really look at that. So if you have that trinity, you know me, I like other ones, but I love triglycerides. HDL, CRP.
Now I'm going to give you the one. I can't say if I want to put it number one, I won't put it number one, but I'll put it right in there. The four tests that you should get to know if you have damage going on in your arteries. A1C, A1C. It'll give you early, early indications if you have insulin resistance, if it's above 5.4, what do I always say? You're on the Titanic. I mean, I was looking at this yesterday. I get blown away by it guys. Okay? I get blown away by it because it's so incredible that most people, listen what he says again, most people who die of heart attack go to the grave never knowing that they were really diabetic. Their arteries were on fire for years. Four tests. Triglycerides, HDL, CRP, A1C, okay? We talked about glycated hemoglobin all the time. I think we talked about it yesterday. It's a great test to get done.
I tell you, I relied on that test in my office big time because I understood the significance of it and I probably was light years ahead of my time, but I knew what I was doing and that's why the reset. It fixes those things. I was aiming at your pancreas, aiming at your liver with the reset, emptying the liver, emptying it, Dr. Joseph Kraft. If you have heart disease, heart, you are a diagnosed or undiagnosed diabetic quoting him the father of diabetes.
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