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Should A Woman Over 60 Take Estrogen?

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Should A Woman Over 60 Take Estrogen?

Dr. Martin's answer is not a yes or a no, and that is deliberate. He says a woman needs estrogen, but it has to be balanced against progesterone. He is not against estrogen. He is against estrogen running unopposed, and his warning is that the blood test you would base the decision on does not show the whole load.

Key takeaways

  • His line is that you need estrogen, but it has to be balanced with progesterone.
  • Measured estrogen does come down after menopause. He does not dispute that part.
  • What he says the panel misses is xenoestrogens, chemicals that mimic estrogen without reading as estrogen.
  • Because of that he calls an estrogen blood test in this window a sort of false reading.
  • His first move is blocking the excess rather than adding more, and he names flax lignans and DIM.
A woman in her sixties in her kitchen holding a glass of water and capsules
Dr. Martin's question is never estrogen yes or no. It is estrogen against what. Episode 1407.

Should a woman over 60 take estrogen?

That decision belongs to you and your own doctor, and nothing here changes it. What Dr. Martin adds is the frame he would want in the room before it gets made, and it is one sentence.

Dr. Martin on estrogen in a woman:

You need estrogen, ladies, you do, but it has to be balanced with progesterone.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

He says it right after explaining that a man is the opposite case, needing testosterone high rather than balanced. In a woman, he says, you need balance. It is not just estrogen.

So the question he thinks is worth asking is not whether you should have estrogen. It is estrogen against what.

What happens to estrogen at menopause

He does not argue with the basic biology. Your ovaries wind down, and measured estrogen comes down with them. That part is not in dispute and he says so plainly: your estrogen levels are going down, of course they are.

The reason he will not stop there is a question a listener put to him, and he calls it a beautiful question. If we are surrounded by estrogen-like chemicals, why does the blood test not show our estrogen going up?

The part the blood test does not pick up

His answer to that question is the core of the episode.

You are going to see that your estrogen levels are coming down, ladies, yeah, but xenoestrogens are still there and they mimic estrogen.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

Xenoestrogen is his word for a chemical your body reads as estrogen even though it is not estrogen. He lists where he says they sit: cosmetics, plastics, perfume, deodorant, hairspray, air freshener, nail polish, and sunscreen. Not all of them, he says, but most. His line on plastic is that on average about a credit card and a half a week finds its way into us.

Because they are not estrogen, they do not register as estrogen.

So if you take an estrogen blood test and you're in perimenopause or whatever, you're going to get sort of a false reading.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

That is the sentence to sit with before deciding anything off a single panel. He is not saying the number is wrong. He is saying it is answering a narrower question than the one you asked it.

"You need estrogen, ladies, you do, but it has to be balanced with progesterone."

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

Why estrogen on its own is not the villain

It would be easy to hear all of this as estrogen is bad. He closes that door himself.

Look, estrogen's on your side until it's not, because if you have too much xenoestrogens, you're in trouble.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

On your side until it is not. That is the whole position in six words. Estrogen is a growth hormone and you need it. The trouble he describes starts with the extra load, the part you never chose and cannot see on a panel.

He points out that this is not only a woman's problem. He says men measured after 50 are carrying more estrogen than he ever expected to see, and that their testosterone has moved the other way.

The questions to take to your doctor

This is a prescription decision and it is not his to make, or ours. These are the things his episode suggests are worth putting on the table, phrased as questions rather than as a plan.

  • What is my progesterone doing, not just my estrogen, since he judges the two together
  • Which symptoms are we actually treating, and how will we know if it worked
  • How much of the decision is resting on one blood panel
  • What is the plan for the estrogen load that is not coming from my own body
  • What are the risks and the review points for me specifically

None of that is a reason to refuse or to start anything. It is a reason to have a longer conversation than the one a single number usually produces.

Food and habits he pointed women to first

His own instinct runs the other way from adding estrogen. He wants the excess blocked, and the word he uses is dim it out.

Flax seeds are the only seed on the planet with high levels of lignans and lignans block estrogen, extra estrogen.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

He is unusually careful with the very next sentence, because the obvious worry is that you are blocking something you need.

They're not going to take away the estrogen that you need.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 1407

It takes away the xenoestrogens you do not need, he says. That is his distinction, and he admits he is not a fan of nuts and seeds generally. You are not a squirrel, is how he puts it. Flax is the exception because of the lignans.

Alongside it he names three more. Get your vitamin D up, and he is specific enough about target levels to send people to his own book for them. Block the load where you can, which for him means looking at what goes on your skin and what your food is stored in. And lower your insulin, because he says insulin is a growth hormone too.

If the fatigue side of this is the part you know best, read why the thyroid never acts on its own next.

Nothing here is a reason to start or stop anything a doctor has prescribed. Talk to your doctor first.

Common questions

Should menopausal women take estrogen?

That is a decision for you and your doctor. Dr. Martin's position is that you need estrogen but it has to be balanced with progesterone, and his own first move is blocking the excess load rather than adding more.

Does estrogen go down after menopause?

Measured estrogen comes down, and he does not dispute that. His point is that the estrogen mimics are still there and the blood test does not show them.

Can a blood test show my real estrogen load?

Not the whole of it, in his view. He says you get a sort of false reading, because the mimics are not estrogen and so they do not register on an estrogen panel.

What blocks extra estrogen naturally?

He names flax seed lignans and DIM, and he is clear that the aim is to block the excess. In his words they are not going to take away the estrogen that you need.

Where Hormonal Support Formula fits

Martin Clinic's Hormonal Support Formula contains DIM, which is the ingredient he is talking about when he says dim the excess estrogen out rather than add more.

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