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Tired All The Time At 60: B12 Or Something Else

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Tired All The Time At 60: B12 Or Something Else

If you are 60 and tired all the time, Dr. Martin checks B12 first. He says deficiency is far more common now than it was, that it hides behind a normal result, and that anything from the two hundreds to the five hundreds still reads low to him.

Key takeaways

  • He says B12 deficiency is much more prevalent today than it used to be.
  • A result in the two hundreds through five hundreds is deficient in his reading, and six or seven hundred is still not optimized.
  • The number he aims for is 800 to 1200.
  • He says you can name the medication and it will knock your B12 down, with Metformin and stomach acid drugs the hardest on it.
  • The other half of it is food. Not enough steak, and no B12 in the plant kingdom.
A tired woman sitting on the edge of her bed in the morning
He calls it hiding in plain sight. The result reads normal and the tiredness is real. Episode 973.

Tired all the time at 60, is it B12?

Often, yes. It is the first thing Dr. Martin checks, and on this episode he opens with a study that backed him up.

Dr. Martin on how common it is:

And actually this study confirms that B12 deficiency is much more prevalent today than it used to be.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

He spent his clinical years looking for deficiencies, and he says this was a very common one. It also used to be treated as one. In the 1950s and early 1960s, doctors handed out B12 shots without much fuss. His wife is a nurse and he says she gave more of them than you could count. His line about today is that you almost have to be dead before you get offered one.

Why it hides in plain sight

The title of the episode is the whole problem in three words, and it is worth understanding before you look at your own result.

Dr. Martin on what happens:

And so people walk around hiding in plain sight and they don't know their low in b12.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

His explanation is the lab range. He calls it the hijacking of labs, and his point is that once a result sits anywhere above a couple of hundred, the report says normal and the conversation stops. His verdict on that floor is that it is enough B12 for a mouse.

Dr. Martin on how he reads the range:

And remember, if you're in the two hundreds, the three hundreds, the four hundreds, the five hundreds, you're literally deficient.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

He does not stop there either. At six or seven hundred he says you are still low. Not deficient, not optimized.

The number he aims for

Dr. Martin on the target:

Now aim high, 800 to 1200 is optimized b12.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

The reaction he gets to that is always the same, and he enjoys it. Someone rings up worried because their doctor called to say their B12 is high. His answer is that high is what they were aiming for.

His reasoning on the safety side is that B12 is water soluble, and he points out that emergency departments are not full of people who took too much of it. His reasoning on the benefit side is simpler. In practice, he says, when people optimized their B12 they felt better. That is what he is chasing, not a tick on a report.

Nothing here is a reason to start or stop anything a doctor has prescribed. Talk to your doctor first.

What drags B12 down

He asked the tired man he had been talking to one question before anything else: are you on any medication.

Dr. Martin on medications:

You know, you name the med, they knock your B12 down.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

He singles out two. Metformin, which he says is extremely hard on B12. And anything for the stomach, the acid reducers, because stomach acid is what gets B12 out of your food in the first place. He adds blood pressure medication to the list. His words about what he saw in practice were almost no exceptions.

That is not a reason to stop anything. He does not tell people to come off their medication and neither does this page. It is a reason to have B12 checked, and to know what number you are looking for when you do.

Food and absorption

Dr. Martin on the second cause:

People don't eat enough steak and they don't get B12 in their food.

Dr. Martin, The Doctor Is In, Episode 973

He calls it a double whammy, and the second half is the part people miss. Your stomach is meant to be very acidic, far more acidic than a cow's, because you were built to break down meat. Stop eating it and, in his words, you use it or you lose it. The pH drifts up, the stomach gets less acidic, and now you are absorbing less of whatever B12 you do eat.

Chicken, he says, is not steak. You still need acid to break it down, just not the same acid. And there is no B12 in the plant kingdom. If you eat little or no red meat, that is not a moral argument, it is an arithmetic one, and he covers it fully in why are people so low in B12.

If it is not B12

Tiredness at 60 is not always one thing, and it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.

B12 is where he starts because it is cheap to check, common, and fixable. If the number comes back at 900 and you are still flattened, the two he goes to next are cortisol and the thyroid. Cortisol tiredness tends to be wired and tired, worst in the evening, with sleep that will not hold. Thyroid tiredness tends to be cold, slow, and comes with hair and skin changes. He has a whole episode on the thyroid one: the thyroid never acts on its own.

None of that is a diagnosis, and none of it replaces a blood test. It is just the order he works in.

Common questions

Why am I tired all the time at 60?

He checks B12 first, because he says deficiency is much more common now than it used to be and it is routinely missed behind a normal lab result.

What is a good B12 level for seniors?

He aims high, 800 to 1200. He calls anything from the two hundreds to the five hundreds deficient, and six or seven hundred still not optimized.

What medications lower B12?

He says you can name the med and it will knock B12 down. Metformin and stomach acid medication are the two he calls hardest on it, with blood pressure medication on the list too.

Can you get B12 from plants?

He says there is no B12 in the plant kingdom. Some of the other B vitamins are there, B12 is not.

Can you take too much B12?

He says B12 is water soluble and points out that emergency departments are not full of people who took too much of it.

Rule B12 in or out

Martin Clinic's Vitamin B12 is a sublingual methylcobalamin, 4000 mcg in one daily serving, taken under the tongue rather than swallowed.

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Dr. Martin

Host of The Doctor Is In. Formulated in clinic. Used in clinic since 1911.